I am not by any means an ecumenicismist but I also am wary of any group . I am a pastor who is attempting to reach a man in my congregation who has been completely deceived by 119ministries. Every word equates to His plan for freedom for all who choose Him. 2. What is the context of that again? high priest give sacrifices for their sins CONTINUOUSLYyear after year.Yahshua/Jesus did it ONCE AND FOR ALL.HALLELUJAH. If you know that he is righteous, you know that every one that does righteousness is born of him.. Help! First the definition of cult is this A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. THAT name means YHWH is salvation. The teachings are disseminated by the 119 Ministries website, youtube, vimeo, and podomatic through internet streaming. Peter was warning against what your perception of the new covenant is. Wow, I knew I heard this type of response before. What they fail to realize is that we didnt create the separation between Israelites and gentiles (goyim, in Hebrew). He needs truth. My name is Leah & I was being figurative when I talked about my booksorry for the confusion! Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Not one mention of Jesus Christ with so many words. I also wholeheartedly agree with what you wrote when you said: They have frequently made it clear that salvation is a free gift offered through YHWHs grace and that following the Torah, the Law, is the natural response of a believer who has been saved by grace. But, really, prayer has been what has helped me the most in trying to reach people who are headed down that path. Once we are aligned with Jesus commandments, the test of good fruit seems to be 1) obedience to His commandments, 2) abiding in His love, 3) making disciples & baptizing them, and 4) teaching them. Knowledge puffs up and when learning takes a path of that flat out condems others, then it vain point is missed need to back up and rethink life and everything. In my opinion. We believe that our Messiah died for our sins on the cross. I have heard however Christians say you are not saved if you do not dress a certain way, or guilt people into keeping a levitical commandment of tithe paying so they can keep their country club lifestyle (by the way something Paul taught against ) read Hebrews sometime. Just one last thing: the one relevant thing you said in response to my comment was, Only modern, enlightened and quite feminized western Christianity has begun to redefine words like hupotasso into a kinder/gentler middle voice so that they/you can appease the aspiring queens of heaven.. This tells me that youve never even considered the lexical data. As I interpret their mission, it is to dispel myths that have crept into the body under the guise of Christianity and are now taught as gospel when in fact they are traditions of men. There is no scripture stating the sabbath & the feasts have been done away with but many pastors teach this very same thing. If we werent He would have told us!!! Of course not. Just a thought. complete to the bring to an end, abolish, end this is just not acceptable reasoning. Basically they claim to live in the spirit & have feel good heart feelings but nothing in their life reflects such a life that is separate from the world. Oh BTW Im not defending 119 or any other ministry, teacher, prophet or blogger as we are to make sure that was is taught conforms to the whole counsel of God. 3 teaches the NC in present tense (Hithpael) If the weaker man in faith (the one who thinks meat is bad) is offended because you eat meat, then in his presence dont eat meat. Dear Leah, Thanks for your reply! He teaches in multiple places that wives are to submit to their husbands. But whoever obeys them and so teaches will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. Peter was such a dear saint ..he had humility when Paul called him out. We are Christian, Protestant, evangelical, theologically conservative, and non-denominational. Experience based on contextual understanding of scripture is a powerful antidote to doubt and COMPLETLY TRUMPS anything you think you know in your mind.. Its true I thought to myself, Why would our Creator allow for us to keep all the other commands, but do away with one? Why appoint times for special feasts to be held that were meant to be everlasting only to do away with them later? Why do people feel that the commands of God are considered burdensome or to be in bondage? If we were given Ten Commandments and are taught about them from early on, why do we teach later that we still have Ten Commandments, but only live by nine? YES! But Strongs Dictionary tells us it is translated as wind 92 times and spirit 232 times. I have found things with 119 that I do find in scripture but I have found this with most ministries. But they are seem to harbor anger toward people who believe deeply in grace and that the Law is not required as a believer. This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? To call them a cult (do you even know what the definition is)? Its not easy, but I feel blessed whenever the truth is brought before my eyes. What?!?!?!?! 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not [a]the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. A few of the heresies of 119 Ministries. 27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. Who better than someone who had a just death sentence discovered to them and the sentence was Go and sin no more . Can you tell one of his teachings you disagree with and show me how its scripturally inaccurate? Show me the scripture where he says we can show him love any way we want including the way the pagans worship their false gods. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he certainly wont spare you! LOOK AROUND AT OUR NATION we are NOT following them and see whats happening before our very eyes . Do you know about the Bar Khokhba revolt? Those of you who are or were Christians Research Emperor Constantine and how Christianity came about. Yes, the LAW IS IMPORTANT. and he concludes that whole talk with 48 Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Tithes were for the Levitie priests who were at the temple. We are all saved by grace through faith in Jesus i.e., God incarnate. Keep the Word. How can we progress towards Heaven if we do not progress in holiness born from love of Jesus Christ? Notice how the reference is to God being a husband to them? They refuse to Act on the words/ instructions of shepherd Jesus. All the nations will come to the mountain of the Lord. We believe our Messiah (Jesus/Yeshua) taught the Torah and obeyed it perfectly. He spoke against the law of sin and he spoke against the law of sin and death, but never against Gods Torah, who in reality is Yeshua the Messiah. Our teachings are simply the result of our passion for the Word and our Creator. I was not attacking you personally with no facts on the arguments ( ad hominem). You might want to check out this free book thats been around since the 90s.. And you. Pleroo is most certainly used in the context to fill up, to fully preach and the logic 119 uses is sound as a test. In fact, a true Judaizer is more interested in my observance of the Talmud writings than in my observance of the written Tanakh (OT): see Matthew chapter 15 and Mark chapter 7. All 119 is trying to do is truly, unbiasedly challenge believers in Yeshua to test and prove what they believe. The old is obsolete, weak and useless in regards to sin snd life in Christ.. Jesus FULFILLED the Torah and HE alone is our New Covenant Torah. But its only going to help someone who is wanting to see what Scripture itself says. We worship who we serve. (Aside: you and John McKee were two young men mocking an elder of the people.) To be frank I think you and Leah are more false teachers than 119 by your implied definition of what a false teacher is. -with Gods spirit in us now, written in our hearts, we are FREE from the law of sin and death!!!! For example Jesus says you have heard it said it is against the Law of God to commit adultery, but I say if you even look at a women with lust you have ALREADY committed the act. My two part video response to Wilber, and now 119 Ministries, as well as a final note. Full disclosure: I do the same at times. 3 and the entire book of Hebrews a few times for further clarification. Its not the same old Laws; its something NEW. As for the anger towards Christians it is misplaced but its part of a grieving process. What authority do you have over them in this matter? I took your comment to be a misrepresentation of how you really felt. He also said the student is not greater than the teacher. Youve proven over and over that you dont care about what the Bible says at all but only want to abuse it to exalt yourself as some creepy male supremacist cult leader. Anyone worshiping on Saturday should realize the day is named by a pope (papal) using the name of a Roman god Saturn (pagan). The Epistles themselves are a proof of the Judaism of the Church. Admittedly, from the start, I sensed misleading (false?) I do not doubt there are those that teach you MUST do the commandments in order to be saved. They talk about salvation, yet they dont know what they need saving from. I am not opposed to reading it. (Never.) Brandon stressed that the sin of blasphemy carried (in our day) the seriousness of the death penalty. Same as us repent and start fresh the next time. He mentioned two dad man rising how did he know thats in Revelation The Startling lack of self awareness there mate. Looking forward to your take on the book. Well said Leah. The 7th day sabbath is the VERY FIRST moedim listed by YHWY in Leviticus 23. In vs. 21 hes talking about the law of Christ. And the famous scripture in John 10: In fact, our atheist friends were once Christians but rejected the church because they have nothing different to offer. I started studying the Hebrew Roots Movement about seven years ago, and 119 is one of the newer but more prolific 'ministries . Not only do they reduce the idea of love and grace essential to Christian theology, they actually deny the idea the newness of the revelation of God in Christ. Never have we been so close, so happy, so at peaceTorah reading, Shabbat and the Feasts are absolute blasts! in detail. We need to use some common sense!! All I have to do is make contact with some of my former supervisors (lieutenant colonels and above) and find out everything I need to know about you. Which day is the sabbath ? I have certain rules (laws) that I want my children to obey. If that is the case, does it make sense to say he did away with the Law? In fact, Kefa told the Sanhedrin, flat out, that is better to obey God than man. No. Or, you can just start tearing pages out of your Bible, regarding everything you disagree with or dont particularly like, until there is nothing left. Its an exiting life being in. Prior to Moses, the When I stand before God I can say I chose not to partake of anything that might remotely offend Him. Thank you for YOUR time. We either take His name in truth, or we take it in vain. I believe the use of Pleroo here is to fully teach or rightly teach because this is exactly what Jesus continually did, and we have countless examples of him doing this. He alone is Gods Word and Truth. - 2 Corinthians 5:17 biblegateway.com 2 Corinthians 5:17 (ESV) Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. On my phones email it does take me directly to the new comment. 33 For this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says ADONAI: I will put my Torah within them and write it on their hearts; I will be their God, and they will be my people. Theres no denying that with over 30,000 Christian denominations. Leah and Everyone Also, over time and careful study, you will start to see that the Greek is based and there are many additions added to the Brit by the Catholics, thats just a fact. Pauls original readers were not relying on Websters dictionary to define the words Paul used. The Gospel of the Kingdom will return but it is not going to convince the world until Satan is removed at the Millennium start. To do the commandments of the Father. It like Tiberian Hebrew are forms of this ancient language family with vowel pointing. My point was that the New Covenant was not specifically for them > that they had to become part of Israel to BE a part of the New Covenant / Bride of Christ. Those that condemn Christians for gathering on Sunday (Sun-day) are hypocrites! NO, as He still has to come back! They were disciples of Christ who were taught by Barnabas and Paul. Therefore what was meant for Israel is then meant for gentiles leaving their pagan ways after accepting Jesus as saviour. However, let me preface my observations with the following comments. Verse 25 says it in a way it cannot be misunderstood or interpreted weirdlyIt says NO LONGER (implying that at one time it was, but from here forward, no more); under a tutor (tutor was defined in v. 24 as the Law). Good things happen to people of all beliefs. Again very familiar with Tovia Singer and his anti Yeshua apologetics. He wants traditional values over truth. A generic answer indicates little knowledge. Also the Greek borrowing the Alef-Bet and core structures in root etymology. 3) Please stop the great misrepresentation of claiming that those who try to follow JESUS by living as he lived are doing this TO BE SAVED. I have heard even further disturbing material that I think characterises the heart of this movement and people (yes, a cult). Part 2 That was an eye opener for us. Our team is spread throughout the country. It is one incredible LOVE STORY of Redemption by a Bridegroom, the very Creator of the Universe. Jesus NC blood was offered in heavens Temple for all sin ever committed. Sean, thank you. Little has changed over the centuries, except that there have always been faithful who sought to keep Torah, including the Sabbath (rest), the appointed times of YHVH,, eating only clean animals aka food, etc., as well as lawless ones who persecuted them. Now that we know what scripture actually says, answer these questions. 2,376 talking about this. And obey His voice. YHWH is the one true GOD, and He has not, will not change. Well, Hebrews 10:26-31 seems to tell a different story: 26 For if we deliberately continue to sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but only the terrifying prospect of Judgment, of raging fire that will consume the enemies. A cult is a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. There is usually a self-appointed prophet or apostle that **CANNOT BE QUESTIONED OR CHALLENGED** on their authority of their religious belief. NO!! I will check the settings, but Im not sure thats something I can set on my end. This is from The Brit Hadesha, incorrectly called the N.T. This has nothing to do with salvation and nothing to do what Jesus accomplished in death burial and resurrection. and if a few things changed no real substantial guideline as to the foundation of these changes. Rabbis & scholars missed who Jesus was the first time around. One Law different Covenants. There are probably plenty of believers who are so different from me that watching Seinfeld will not ever be sinful for them. 33 This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. Thank you for your time. John 1:14 I also understand we all are at different points of understand and studying. Perfection doesnt need to be changed, Leah, otherwise it is not perfection. Again, with over 30, 000 registered denominations in Christianity people leave assemblies over difference in opinion about pre-trib or post-trib, Holy Spirit being a person versus a spirit by which God does thins, Jesus being God versus Jesus only being the Son OR even only being Messiah but not divine, etc, etc, etc, and all that. But whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom from heaven. so we take into consideration what Paul speaks in Rom 14; I will paraphrase if there are those weak in faith do not quarrel with them. the next time you same Amen, or Hallelujah in the middle of speaking English you are guilty of your own accusation. Being unsuccessful in that, in his later career, Luther denounced the Jewish people and urged for their harsh persecution and destruction. In this passage, Paul is saying there is Law and there is faith: of which are you? Frankly, I find Christianity totally confusing. Thought my time was up (re other post where I thought Id run out of time) but I did get a few minutes more.. Galatians was my go-to place of revelation and helping others see the light for a few decades. His vision from God was a metaphor about the man-made tradition the Jews had of not being allowed to have fellowship with gentiles. and then said, If you disagree, then you will need to conclude that Jesus also did what he just said was WRONG. I pray for the author and the confusion created here. Read the Gospel of John, second chapter. Then to me? Obeying the law simply cant make you spotless or righteous. It seemed to me that everything I was taught was biased. I dont think so. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. But some are clearly closer than others. I hope this helps to clarify your question on Yehovas calendar that is improperly called a Hebrew calendar Same as the Feasts of Yehova improperly dubbed Jewish feats. no, in no way do I or will I. you are a sister in Yehoshua (Jesus). They teach Bible prophecy including the four blood moons theory in their Daniel Unsealed video. Well, we follow the patterns, dietary laws, 7 feasts, Sabbaths, and everything else YHVH has commanded us all to do. You mentioned Rom. I think most of the issue people have with them is that they are challenging you to walk away from the spoon fed teachings your pastor gives you, and to break out a concordance to do some digging and studying on your own. Grace, in reality, is Gods love. Jesus Christ (Yashua, his Hebrew Name) and Yahweh are looking for a people, his elect, his saints, his bride to be that will Love him through keeping his commandments, statutes and charge. To whom or what are we grafted in to? As for food stuffsI entirely disagree with your the on the scriptures. 13, A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. Jealous because many Christians read the Holy Scriptures with a Greco-Roman mindset and want us Jews to do the same? God is the same yesterday, today & forever. Timline, context and intent are key to understanding scriptures. mean that we are not to be under the law of God. The truth as presented by the whole word of God, Genesis-Revelation, the fallacy of needing to follow the law under the new covenant, and illogical hugeness of Gods grace. Were there sometimes people within the Church who did not practice what they preached? so we have to be ingrafted to Israel.). Why cant we research what someone else is thinking? News Flash, Leah, the Greeks and the Romans worshiped false gods (Satan, his fallen angels, and demons). 35 By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another. -John 13:34-35 We have the Law and the Prophets that tell us what is expected. Do you not think there is a reason for each and every Word Yahweh uttered in the Scriptures? This is false beyond belief. 11 For the Scripture says, Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed. 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13 for Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved. Then if a person claims to be a student of the word of God (the scriptures)? If thats what they hold to be truly the Sabbath, then they break it every weak. Simply, why? Thank you ! Replacement Theology, Antisemitism and the blatant misinterpretation of the Scriptures are pushing the Protestant Church further and further into apostasy, which means that Yeshua the Messiah will return to earth a lot sooner than most people are expecting. The people of Israel broke that covenant which is why God sent Jesus Christ to fulfill the Law of Moses and to establish a new covenant, a covenant of salvation by grace through faith in the redemptive work of Jesus Christ. He called you. synonyms: sect, denomination, group, movement, church, persuasion, body, faction (John 3:16 paraphrase). .What is G-Ds calender? This is without a doubt the best comment response to this troubling movement and theology (119/hebrewroots/torahbabies, etc) that I have read. You can deny it all you want. You make subjective viewpoints new law and forego long standing objective ways of God. 5:1). 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